Curse

Vladmir Mironov · Oct 03, 2006, 12:33 AM // 00:33

My first character was an Elementalist and it's my most used character.
From what I've experienced any 'good' Ele won't bring Firestorm into anything unless they're told.
Though it's not really used for anything so they should never be told that.
I think you have to tell the noob Ele's not to bring it in and threaten being kicked or something.
This might be the only way to get through to them.

CalypsoX · Oct 03, 2006, 01:04 AM // 01:04

AoE skills with DoT like Firestorm and Breath are reallly good for taking down bosses, especially monk ones. The only way I can kill Willa in Ring Of Fire/Abaddon's with Hench is if I bring Cynn along. The trick is to block the boss so she can't run, either by herding into a corner, or body-blocking all around. The AI is flawed since it's first priority is to run from AoE rather than cast/attack, so if it can't move, it'll just stand there doing nothing, all the while eating AoE damage as you pound away. Limited example, I know, but it works, especially if you like to hench a lot, which will probably be the case for most when NF comes out.

Trvth Jvstice · Oct 03, 2006, 01:05 AM // 01:05

I don't have a problem with henchies using firestorm. When Orion (or whoever) uses it and the enemies start running away, I just hit c multiple times to select the closest enemy until the enemies settle down then I call the closest target.

I can't blame new eles when they use Firestorm, It worked soooo well in pre, but an ele doesnt have to progress very far in the game to find a better replacement for the skillbar after searing. Once eles have beaten a few missions and quests, they should have replaced firestorm with a better skill.

tinnic · Oct 03, 2006, 01:17 AM // 01:17

Everytime these x skill is stupid threads come up I cringe. THERE are no stupid skills. Only stupid ways of using them.

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Originally Posted by vinegrower

yeah, firestorm has no use, especially since they NEVER gave us any way to slow down foes so that they take all or most of the damage.

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Actually Firestorm works REALLY well in AB/jade quarry when trying to capture those shrines because apart from the elite warriors the NPCS don't leave the shrine area ^.^

So meteor storm -> fire storm -> breath of fire = congratulations you have just captured a shrine all by yourself.

Shadowfox1125 · Oct 03, 2006, 01:27 AM // 01:27

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Originally Posted by O R L Y

who said i dident know that fs was an aoe?

That's not my point. What I'm saying is that why don't you know that Fire Storm makes creatures flee?

This stuff is old news. Ever wonder why people stopped making Eles a couple of months ago?

unmatchedfury · Oct 03, 2006, 02:07 AM // 02:07

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Originally Posted by tinnic

Everytime these x skill is stupid threads come up I cringe. THERE are no stupid skills. Only stupid ways of using them.

Actually Firestorm works REALLY well in AB/jade quarry when trying to capture those shrines because apart from the elite warriors the NPCS don't leave the shrine area ^.^

So meteor storm -> fire storm -> breath of fire = congratulations you have just captured a shrine all by yourself.

Yea isn't that the truth.I useually use ranger interupt in AB jsu to coutner this. (well that and MMs.)

kazjun · Oct 03, 2006, 02:25 AM // 02:25

I don't see how firestorm is a problem. If you wiped, just ask the ele not to bring it and go again. If they refuse to part with it, do like I do with orion/Cynn, leave them in town.

CalypsoX · Oct 03, 2006, 02:28 AM // 02:28

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Originally Posted by tinnic

Everytime these x skill is stupid threads come up I cringe. THERE are no stupid skills. Only stupid ways of using them.

I'd say Skull Crack and Ward Against Harm qualify quite nicely as stupid skills, as in skills that are complete garbage and don't deserve a slot in any skillbars. The fact that they're elite too makes it even worse.

Juicey Shake · Oct 03, 2006, 03:04 AM // 03:04

even izzy, the master skill balancer has said there are useless skills.. but it's too late in the game to remove them.

O R L Y · Oct 03, 2006, 03:14 AM // 03:14

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Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125

That's not my point. What I'm saying is that why don't you know that Fire Storm makes creatures flee?

This stuff is old news. Ever wonder why people stopped making Eles a couple of months ago?

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Originally Posted by O R L Y

The skill is completely useless and reaks havoc in any party, just yesterday i went monking The Deep every single group i was in (11 Total) failed because the idiot ele used firestorm breaking aggro and killing us all. Not only did the eles use firestorm they brought breath of fire! i hope they do something about AoE's or just plain remove that shit from the game.

breaking aggro = flee

Apple · Oct 03, 2006, 03:24 AM // 03:24

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Originally Posted by CalypsoX

I'd say Skull Crack and Ward Against Harm qualify quite nicely as stupid skills, as in skills that are complete garbage and don't deserve a slot in any skillbars. The fact that they're elite too makes it even worse.

Ward Against Harm + ward against elements + Greater Conflag + Mantra of Flame = dead IWAY. Or any other non-bloodspike build for that matter...

Solar_Takfar · Oct 03, 2006, 03:41 AM // 03:41

spirits can't flee from AoE, either.

Sol_Vie · Oct 03, 2006, 03:48 AM // 03:48

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Originally Posted by EternalTempest

Strongly Disagree

Since the AOE change the use of it's changed greatly.

I find if in a party, aggro control gets broken, casting it with the mob next to you or on you party's monk is a great way to get heat off for a short bit. (This is after aggro is broken).

I've also found some mobs (not many) if focused on tank will not break aggro and also with Factions and tight area's, there times you can usually use it as it was intended. It just a skill that went from general use that can be used if your are careful.

Oh, you mean adapt? Wowee! I never thought of that!

Removing a skill is just plain stupid. If you have it- don't use it. If you have party members, tell them why it's no good. If you have henchies... well it might be nice to remove it from them, but Orion only uses it when everyone is already dead.

IllusiveMind · Oct 03, 2006, 04:22 AM // 04:22

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Ward Against Harm + ward against elements + Greater Conflag + Mantra of Flame = dead IWAY. Or any other non-bloodspike build for that matter...

Requierement:
Smart People.

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Yes remove FS, but let us balance this by removing Eviscerate, Ritual Lord , Mantra of Recall, Blessed Light, Barrage, Animate Flesh Golem and of course Moebius Strike. See? It does work and it's pretty balanced.

/endsarcasm

some guy · Oct 03, 2006, 04:25 AM // 04:25

Bring meteor shower...

Neo Nugget · Oct 03, 2006, 04:25 AM // 04:25

I see no reason to remove it....it has its uses.

dreamhunk · Oct 03, 2006, 04:26 AM // 04:26

Do you really think izzy or anet even cares about the elemental class?? why would they even care about fire storm!

did anyone check the armors for elemtals in nightfall it sucks when you look at all the other armors.

elemtals only good for pvp healers!

All this is nothing new!!!

Makkert · Oct 03, 2006, 04:44 AM // 04:44

Hamstorm.

enough said. Firestorm should never be removed, if only for it's sheer comedy value.

Archangel_92 · Oct 03, 2006, 04:55 AM // 04:55

Firestorm is for teaching Wars not to Frenzy in the Guild Lord area

Phoenix Arrows · Oct 03, 2006, 05:13 AM // 05:13

*sarcasm*

I don't like Blinding Flash. Let's remove all those annoying Blinding skills from the game, shall we?

*/sarcasm*